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cinciOHlandlord

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Does anyone have any experience getting rid of this pestilence?
I called in a professional company and all they could say was: " we will sure knock them down." That honestly just is not good enough. I don't want them knocked down, i want them knocked out! I had this company in 5 times $450+ the first time and 350+ there after. Sorry that is just too much to spend on a hope.
Since December i have let the building stand empty. (yes a 5 family stands empty because of a bug!) I have sprayed every chemical i can get my hands on in the place. I have poked hole in the walls so to be able to get the products into the walls were the little buggers are and still they come.
I have been told they can live up to 18 months in a dormant state. I don't want to rent the place and expose someone to them or expose myself to the risk of a lawsuit.
Help!!!! i am all ears on any suggestion's......... Thanks D.C.
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Here is one site that gives good information on getting rid of bed bugs.  It gives more natural ways of dealing with them.

http://getridofbedbugsathome.com/

Unfortunately, it is a lengthy process to eradicate them completely.
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I have no suggestions except I was told the raid fumigator was good for this problem. But I was curious ,how did this start? did you purchase this building this way,or was there a family you can link the problem to ? I cannot imagine having to let a 5 family sit empty so long,I am just looking to see who if anyone can be linked to the problem, keep us posted & good luck!!

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As the old saying goes; "no good deed goes unpunished". I allowed a friends father to have a small apartment because he was soon going to find himself out on the street. I could go on and on but i won't. the fault is mine, I let him in.
The part that makes me sick is that this is the first building i ever bought and put my heart and soul into it's refurbishment only to have all my hard work ruined by my own stupidity!! I currently own other units so i still have income but as i say this was my first.
It is up for sale (fat chance in this economy) but i have had no takers. When i ask the Realtor if anyone ever asks about the bugs his responds is "the issue never comes up"!?!?!?!?
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Website posted by Marion2 was excellent! But get a bedbug dog to locate and treat nests. And I would seriously take the recommendation to store anything you can't live without in a bag for a year after infestation, as we did all antiques infested being restored. Wish Termites were this easy. It's about 106 degrees during summer, so that helped cure furniture also, or anything too costly to toss.

 

Bed bugs aren’t attracted to dirt, grime, and filth – but instead, seek out warm-blooded creatures in order to satisfy their only source of food – blood. Therefore, it means that the cleanest of homes, can become a gathering place for the little Landlord life source bloodsucking vermin.

My Grandmother's favorite phrase at night was "Don't let the bed bugs bite." Very funny...an antique dealer, upholsterer and LL. She was forced to be meticulous in upholstry. Plastic sheets tented entry way and entire work room. Inside a steam cleaner/heat lamp/washing machine, she always wore the same clothes, they NEVER left the room (after a infestation she threw them out!) Gramps spritzed her/or steamed( hot) initially directly in front of door au natural, up to six weeks for an infestation, fewer for a few old skin casts. Treated all regular clothes, linens, car upholstery, no matter what, weekly. Every three days during a yellow alert. Repetition over time is the solution and prevention. Before and AFTER moving stuff, rental cleanups, or just antique shopping we disinfected clothes, selves, shoes, purses, wallets, fingernails, toothbrush for brows and lashes anything possibly exposed. Abandoned ship many times in transit due to a little lint. You don’t want to go anywhere with your little friend on you. You don’t want to be the bearer or reciever.  

Later as bed bugs became "popular", we isolated ALL objects, anything left behind, especially in our partially(with semi-cherished antiques) furnished apts; on dark AND light colored cloth before moving or leaving,  and checked for developments, each rental had it's own "spread".

Unfortunately, bed bugs are able to survive for many months without feeding. Precautions included having prospective tenants cover feet during showing saying she just had the rugs done, you never know where THEY'VE been. In apartment complexes and condominiums, bed bugs are known to travel using pipes and wiring. She eventually had a bug dog on call. We’d lift him up to light fixtures, or wherever. She bought herbal remedies, sprays, laundry disinfectant for tenants and rewarded those who used it before she’d called to check on her antiques supposedly, with a day or two of free housecleaning for up to over a year; obviously to keep an eye on the place . It paid to have them do the work. You can never be vigilant enough.. check...often, habitually. Good Luck

Josh

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This is the best site for any pest problem you may be faced with.
Yes even termites and bed bugs. Call them up and they will take the
time to help you in any way they can. Great people of great knowledge
and help. Family business. Plain good people.

http://www.bugspray.com/article/bedbugs.html

I did some recent research on these little boogers. I found that the newest
most effective cure for bedbugs is HEAT. 120 to 130 degrees for ?
not sure how long it takes. The heat method seems to be the one method that
is eradicating the little boogers completely time after time.





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cinciOHlandlord

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Thanks Josh, That was a great sight with good info. I plan on calling them soon (tomorrow) and finding out some more info. I know i still have the problem because i shop vac up the carcasses, spray new chemical and then find new dead ones the following week. This has been going on since December / January.   Thanks again, Dan (AKA cinciOHlandlord.)

Josh

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Happy to lend a hand. Post updates how the battle is going.

You will over come this.




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We always use herbal products..for bed bugs...there are a lots of product for it...like..

*Use lavendor aroubnd your bed frame..

*Use hot water to wash your bed sheet and clothes..

*Spread some mint leaves on the effected area..as well as whole house..

*Use the combination of rapeseed oil and pyrethrins..It will directly attack on the bed bugs nervous system..



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I have to agree with Josh.  A local Mental Health facility got infected.  Rather than spray and spray (and hope the little buggers go away), they tried with heat.  Sealed up the entire building and raised the heat with industrial heaters.  The place was back in business in days, not months.  With the 5 plex empty, this should be an easy task.  Look into this.

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Now here is a solution that surely help you.
Bed bugs are by far the toughest pest to control and eradicate. They reproduce quickly, are hard to detect and most certainly will cause both physical and mental stress. Bed Bug 911, understand that every bed bug infestation is unique in its own way and therefore tailor our comprehensive approach of Preparation, Extermination and Prevention to the specific needs of each unique case.
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Looking online and reading from Pest Control, they do the following to treat for bedbugs.

- STEP 1 - Vacuuming - can remove 60 percent of bedbugs and eggs.  Dispose of the vacuum cleaner bag OUTSIDE THE HOUSE in a sealed plastic bag!
- STEP 2 - Steam treatment of 200 Deg F along baseboards kills another 37 percent - we're now up to 97 percent of bed bugs/eggs killed.  Temps of 113 - 118 F kills bedbugs and eggs on contact (it cooks them!).  You need moderate pressure steam to penetrate 2 3/8s inches into a carpet seam or baseboard crack to reach and kill bedbugs.  If the pressure is too high, you are just blowing bedbugs deeper in without killing them.  Recommended to wrap your steam with a cloth to disperse the steam to a 6 to 10 inches swath.  Slowly move and spend at least 1 second in place before moving another 6 to 10 inches.  Wait for area to be dry before moving to the next step.
- STEP 3A - Contact pesticide kills the ones you can see and get to.
- STEP 3B - Pesticide with persistent killing power usually kills remaining bed bugs actively looking for a meal within two weeks.  Some pesticides also kill the eggs.
- STEP 4 - Remove all electrical switch plates and outlet covers and puff some diatomaceous earth inside (include the outlet vents where your plug goes in too!).  This can kill some that crawl across.  Thin coat is all that is needed.  If it is a pile, they say bedbugs will just walk around it.

STEP 5 - After 10 - 14 days later Treat again repeating steps 1 thru 4.
- Use traps and lures to monitor for bedbug activity

STEP 6 - After 10 - 14 days later Treat again repeating steps 1 thru 4.
- Use traps and lures to monitor for bedbug activity

STEP 7 Optional - Use a rug shampoo machine to clean and suck up any residual bed bugs, eggs and shed skins AFTER you are confident there are no more bedbugs.  Do a final treatment of pesticide and dust in a way presentable to new tenants looking at the apartment.

You may have killed all the adult bed bugs the first go around.  You should still do STEPF 5 and 6.

Bed Bug Eggs take 10 - 15 days to hatch

A bedbug needs a blood meal to molt (shed it's skin) to the next stage in it's lifecycle.

It takes FIVE (5) moltings for a bedbug to reach sexual maturity.  Male bedbugs are so sexed up, they will try to mate with other male bedbugs.  Their sex organ is a sharp horn that pierces the belly of other bedbug (male or female). 

You need 2 to 3 treatments each 2 weeks apart to ensure all bedbugs are dead.  Plan on one and a half to two months.

Baby bedbugs need food within 5 to 10 days or they will starve to death.  An empty apartment is the best for treatment as any recently hatched bedbugs will not have anything to eat. 

An adult bedbug in a cold apartment can live up to 18 months without feeding.  A warm apartment keeps them active and crawling so they waste energy and starve.

Bedbug glue traps are used to monitor whether there is an active population.

A Bedbug Carbon Dioxide Generator trap (see YouTube for construction) is a good way to attract bedbugs and bring them out of hiding. 
THE LURE:  Take a plastic soda bottle and poke a hole 1/4 of the way from the top and stick a soda straw in the hole pointing down.  Use glue (a hot glue gun works) to seal up the seam where the straw enters the bottle.  Put into the bottle -  2 cups sugar and 1 pack yeast and fill halfway with warm water. 
THE TRAP:  You need a clean drinking glass, a paper towel, a rubber band or tape, some talcum powder squirted into it.  Wrap paper towel around the glass with the edge just at or a little over the glass rim.  Rubber band or tape the towel around the glass.  Trim excess, but leave enough paper towel at the base for bedbugs to make contact from the floor and crawl up the glass.  The climb over the lip and fall into the glass.  Talcum powder makes it slippery, so they cannot crawl out.  some people also put in a light dusting of diatomaceous earth.
PLACEMENT:  Place the trap in an area where bedbugs are likely.  Turn off any fans or air circulators.  Position the Lure, so that the straw end is over the glass.  Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is a heavy gas.  We usually exhale this as we breath.  Bedbugs are attracted to it when they hunt for a live person to feed off.  Some people also use a handwarmer to produce heat to further entice a bedbug to the trap.  Some also place a small cap of chicken, or meat blood in the trap as bedbugs are lured by 4 things - CO2, body heat, blood and a the scent of a female bedbug.

Dump the bedbugs into a plastic bag, seal it or tie it off and dispose outside the house!

Lucky you if a female bedbug enters the trap as her pheromone scent will mark a feeding trail for other bedbugs to follow.  With the promise of food and sex, the trap will fill up!

Female bedbugs that have had a blood meal can lay up to 5 eggs a day, though I read the average is 1 per day.

All the above can be obtained at the local hardware store, or online bedbug supply sites.  Cost varies if you want to buy/rent a steamer.  But one can follow these steps and treat an empty apartment for around $300.

NOTE:  I have read fumigators and foggers only kill a small percentage of bedbugs (ones that are out on the carpet and exposed on drapes), but does not penetrate deep enough to where they hide and only drives them deeper into hiding.

Bedbugs expand to areas when the community is too packed.  If your bedroom drapes have bedbugs, it is likely the bed is jam packed with them!  Next they go out into the hall and living room!

Bedbugs can travel up to 30 meters and back on their nightly feeding runs between the host and their hiding place.

Heat Treatment where they heat up the whole apartment works, but this is where the kill times are different from contact steaming.  Instead of killing on contact at 118F, you need to heat the whole house to greater than 200 for several hours to ensure the heat seeps into everything.

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Good talk at Ohio State U by bed bug researcher on WHAT DOESN'T WORK for bedbugs.



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2010? Seriously?
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It's a timeless topic among landlords!  [biggrin]
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