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Sonya

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We are renting a trailer on a property in the country with three trailers and a apartment building with four units. Our landlord sold the property and the new landlords want me to take them down I have a net for the trampoline and the ladder to the three foot pool never stays in when not it's not being used. We have homeowners insurance so wouldn't everything be covered under our insurance or would it still be the landlord. I am totally ok with fencing them if I need to but can they tell me I can't have them anymore.
LLinVA

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Do you have homeowners insurance or renters insurance? If you have a landlord, then you rent, in which case I don't think it would be homeowners insurance (unless there is some exception with owning the trailer but renting the land it sits on that I'm not familiar with).

Do you have a lease? Does it say anything either way? Did you sign a new lease with the new landlord? Did they give a reason as to why they want them removed? 

Generally, unless it is spelled out in the lease saying so, they can't just make up rules and start enforcing them. There would need to be something in the lease giving them the right to do so, although it may be very vague and not explicitly state pools and trampolines.


Sonya

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It says home owners insurance policy. There trying to tell us we can't have a trailer our pop-up camper and recreational vehicles on the property and trying to charge us 125 for a garage connected to our driveway literally around ten feet from our front door if we don't want to pay it they said other people would want it and we would have to figure it out but I shouldn't have to move my car out of my driveway so someone can use the garage. There are so many things I have a problem with the lease we have t signed it yet they want us to do the snow removal and lawn care which is around 2 acres and pay for gas. We got suckered with the first landlord with doing it that way didn't know he wasn't going to pay for gas we were asking for the garage and some rent docked off. Don't have money for a lawyer either and can't find any rules with the garage thing. They have never been landlords before.
Sonya

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I was going to post a picture of the garage to show the distance from my front door and the driveway but I can't figure it out
LLinVA

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If you haven't signed a lease, I wouldn't yet. Talk to them. Tell them their demands are unreasonable. Tell them that you, and anyone else who would want to rent there, can't afford to pay for everything they are asking of you. 

At the end of the day, barring some exception in your state or the old lease, they can require you to accept the new lease or move. I know that in Virginia, when our leases are set to renew, they can either renew, be terminated, or be changed (terminate and offer them a new one). So you may not have much of a choice.

Have you looked into lawyers and gotten actual rates? If you get your questions and concerns together, it may only be a one-hour consultation which may be a lot more affordable than you think, and cost less than moving. I wouldn't recommend letting them take the lease and review it for many hours, but it is worth at least sitting down for an hour to at least see if the new landlord is really overstepping some boundaries, or if they are within their right to do everything they are doing.

It would also be smart to start looking at other options so that you at least have an idea of the market and maybe even an option or two if moving ends up being the best option for you.
Sonya

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We haven't signed anything and with the first owner we signed a year lease and we have been here almost five years now and never had to renew it I was more or less the caretaker. I have a feeling we are going to have to move just didn't want my kids to have to switch schools. I'll just have to find a lawyer that will look it over. Thanks for the advice.
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Save your money with the attorney.  You haven't had a lease in 4 years.  Your new landlord can change the terms.  It is his right to set the terms on his property.  He only needs to give you proper notice of the change n terms.

It is routine to deny pools and trampolines at rental properties.  Your insurance will not cover everything should a child wander into the pool.  These items are called attractive nuisances by insurers.  These items attract kids and can easily hurt or kill a child when unattended.  Nets don't matter (kids still get hurt - even with nets).  And hot kids can find a way into that pool without the ladder.  Their company will raise the owner's rates, or cancel his coverage, if these remain on the property.  There is a reason behind this.  Worst case scenario. You aren't home.  Kid wanders into the property and gets hurt or killed in the pool or the trampoline.  Upset parent wants to sue.  Does he sue the tenant who owns nothing?  Or the landlord who owns property, 3 trailers, and an apartment building?  So the owner's insurance has to pay, then sue you and your insurance to get their money back.  Would the parent win against the owner?  Absolutely!  He knew the nuisance was there and did nothing to mitigate it.  If you want to stay, get rid of the pool and trampoline.  We don't allow them at any rental property.  Likewise, we don't allow ATVs at any property (property damage - and everyone would want one.  7 ATVs running around 2 acres?  No.  Again - someone can get hurt.  Liability.)  We don't allow campers unless a tenant wants to pay extra for storage.  If you allow one tenant to do something on that property, they all will want to.  Who wants 7 campers stored on the property???

If the garage is not connected to your home (which it wouldn't be for a trailer), it can be a separate rental.  It is not unusual for a garage to be rented separately.  I know of several homes, on single family properties, that are rented to other people than the tenant.  It's not connected to your rental, despite the proximity.  It's a separate structure on a multiple unit property.  Any of those tenants could rent it.  Again, perfectly legal.  Chances are they would just extend your driveway so you would park beside it or in front of your trailer.  You would no longer get to park in front of the garage.  Remember, the driveway is just anther part of that 2 acre lot with multiple units.  It isn't yours.

The lawn care and snow removal is negotiable.  Negotiate a reasonable amount for your labor and gas.  Otherwise, they can hire out the apartment building area and make each trailer tenant responsible for the area around their own mobile home.  Depending on the state, they may or may not be required to do snow removal.  In Ohio, owners are not required.  In other states, they are.  You'd have to check your state law.  I'm sure they approached you because you have been doing it for years.  Ask for a rent reduction for doing it if you would want to continue.

In short, these aren't unreasonable or even unexpected items, with the exception of mowing/snow removal.  You negotiated the garage for this yard maintenance and a rent reduction with the last landlord.  Expect to do the same with the new owner.

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