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OHlandlord

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I'm sure he doesn't care to save them.  It is much easier to tear things out than to replace them.  It costs nothing to swing a hammer at them.  He may feel that it is your problem to pay to save them, but he rented the space with those mirrors in them.  He also is agreeing to return the property to pre-rental condition (I hope) when he vacates.  How is he going to do this if they break them up?  If this was a residential property that was rented out with a mirror in it and it was returned vacant with no mirror (or the mirror broken) I would charge the tenant for the damage.  Personally, I am adamantly against throwing away perfectly useful stuff.  Everyday I see people throw out things that still work simply because they no longer want it or they have no other use for it.  (Duh, recycle it!)

I feel that if you want these saved, it is his responsibility to pay for their appropriate and careful removal by a professional glass shop.  You did not sign to have him destroy items in your property.  Mirrors like that are used by beauty shops, bars, clothing retailers, department stores, in baths at nice restaurants and in residential settings for baths, to make small rooms feel larger, and for decoration.  I have a large (3x6) one myself above a second (make-up) vanity in our master bath.  I also have an etched one behind my jacuzzi.  Come to think of it, I have large (about 3x6) mirrors in at least 3 residential baths in my properties.

$260 to save those isn't much when you consider what a true contractor costs.  He's trying to get all he can from you.  (He already was negotiating free remodelling time.)  I wonder just how much he is paying that "contractor" to remove walls, build others, etc.  (I really wonder if he is using a licensed contractor at all.  If he was, a $260 increase wouldn't phase him.)

If he doesn't want to remove them, wallpapering over them would be a good solution.  It would cover the mirror without damage, but be easily removed afterward (as long as he doesn't use vinyl glue).
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The lease states he is to show me all plans concerning this remodeling which he agrees to do. I can also accept or reject the plans. So far he plans to remove two small walls with windows in them and move them to make a confrence room, which is okay with me as it would open up the space and remove a hallway which is currently nonfunctional. He is very intent on saving money with this renovation. We have to come to some agreement on the mirrors, I will wait to see what his contractor says, then go from there. He claims the place will look much better than it does now and when and if he leaves it will be more desirable to a larger tenant base. Yadda Yadda.  He mentioned today about hot water available. The last tenant did not have a hot water tank, so therefore there is no hot water.  This is commercial property, not residential, so would I be responsible for supplying him with a small hot water tank? I am waiting for him to possibly bring this up as well in the future and want to be prepared with an answer.  The lease states, Lessor is responsible for structural repairs only - roof - etc. I have a feeling this one will be a nit-picker.

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No offense to the guy, but neither you nor he know that the improvements he is making will make your property more desirable.  I hear that from tenants all the time.  It usually isn't true.  You may end up having to rip out his improvements for the next guy.  That's why most commercial property leases have a clause that states the tenant will return the property to its original condition at the end of tenancy. 

I'm not sure about the water heater.  Most offices don't have one since  there is little use for one.  What would you use it for, washing hands?  Coffee maker uses cold water.  No kitchenette in this property, right?  Why would you constantly keep 30 gals of water hot just to use a quart to wash your hands?  That's a huge waste of energy that he will have to pay for. 

If you do need to put one in, I'd put in the smallest electric one I could find.  It will have to be on a seperate breaker (electrician needed) and will have to be plumbed in (plumber needed).  This will cost you probably around $500 unless you know how to do this yourself.  ($200 for water heater + materials + electrician + plumber + permit)  Copper wiring & pipes are hugely expensive right now.  And if the tank eventually leaks (which it will), where is that water going to go?  Is there a drain nearby you could plumb the overflow value into?  (Make sure they put a pan under the water heater to catch any water if it does leak.)  30 gals of water on your floors isn't good.  I just don't see the need for it myself. 

In my opinion, this guy is trying to nickel and dime you to death.  I'd either tell him no or use this as a bargaining chip to get him to make concessions on some other area.  (And why couldn't his "contractors" do this for him since they will already be there?)  My advise (take it or leave it), take a firm stand with this guy now or he will be bugging you for things the whole time he is in there.  He sounds like a complainer.
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If he asks I will definitely not put a water heater in for him. He rented it without and it is his fault for not inquiring about it before he signed the lease. The previous tenant did not use hot water, as in commercial property the tenant is responsible for the water/sewer bills and the cost would definitely be higher. He would probably not want these kind of bills anyways. If he chooses to put a small one in at his expense that would be fine for hand washing etc. Your right he does seem like a complainer. We will see what he brings up when I meet him to give him his copy of the lease on Monday. He wants his own business, but does not seem to want to shell out the money. The property was vacant since March and I was not getting any calls for a long period of time. There are properties up and down the street with For Rent signs and that is why I was estatic to finally get an interested tenant, especially a real estate office.  Quite frankly I was looking for a tenant who would not be wanting a long-term lease (longer than one year) as someone is interested and has been for a long time into buying the property from me. He would put his own restaurant business in there. (His lease is up next year)  We spoke on many occasions and I can tell he is serious,  however, I must see if his offer is comparable to other properties in the area and so on. I don't want to make a killing, however, I don't want to give it away either.  I hope within one or two years to sell and not have to deal with "tenants" any longer. Don't get me wrong, it's great to collect the rent check every month, but when there's a problem or a delinquent tenant, that's another story. I've spent too many times on the phone, asking where the rent is? My father was a landlord for years and now that he is getting older, in his eighties,  I am taking over for him. Slowly getting more into it as he gets out. He tells me that the tenants are changing and not as easy to deal with as they were when he was younger and in the business. I see what he means, by the last one we had.  I can only wait and see with this one, as you have said days equals money and my property taxes are not going down anytime soon.

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